Made a new friend, Cindy, (also have an old friend Cindy, different  person)

and started talking and emailing a little about survival. 

Basic content of those several emails is here.



Linked Printable nine page pdf file that covers all this





Is my survival site
Much of the material comes from half my life ago so my point of view may have changed
Just a lot of good info on those pages

Water Storage Container
Link to the five gallon containers I use.  I have five of them.  also available at wal mart, sometimes
The first one I had was tested over five years of my personal use, and the water never tasted like plastic
I fill half way with water, adding some backing soda, and swishing around- to freshen, and sometimes little plastic trim comes out
then I fill it up and empty once and then final filling.
top spout cap turns around and becomes a spigot

The barrel-shaped Reliance Water-Pak container holds 5 gal. of water and is great for camping, picnics and team sporting events.

  • Rugged food-grade polyethylene doesn't retain tastes or odors and is 100% BPA free

  • Anti-roll design lets you set container on its side without worrying about it rolling away

  • Spigot reverses for safe storage inside the container

  • Nesting top and bottom allows multiple containers to be stacked on top of each other

  • Top handle lets carry the container at your side



Point is for nominal fee, even shipped to your house,  you can fill up and forget say, 40 gallons of drinking water for power-outs or temporary emergencies
I have the square ones from then and I do not like them so much.  Page gave this one a three star rating but I would give it a five.

Also can consider some five gallon buckets filled with what is called grey water not preserved, and you use it to flush your toilets if power is out.
Some people add a little Clorox to water to preserve, can get you the amount.  I just change mine  over time.
Costs a little and does not take up much space.  might keep you and your pets in water if things go out for a while
you might just save this kind of email to a file on your computer

One page with basic water and medical and such files in short form- download your own copy


How to Purify Drinking Water
Boiling Method:

Boiling is the preferred way to purify water. Bring water to a rolling
boil for 3-5 minutes, keeping in mind that some water will evaporate.
Let the water cool before drinking.

Boiled water will taste better if you put oxygen back into it by
pouring the water back and forth between two clean containers. This
will also improve the taste of stored water.

Bleach Method:

When boiling water is not possible, filter water, letting particles
settle out. Pour off clear water. Add regular household liquid bleach
(5.25% sodium hypochlorite, such as Clorox bleach -- not scented or
color safe), as follows:

4 drops regular liquid bleach per quart of water
16 drops regular liquid bleach per gallon of water
1 teaspoon regular liquid bleach per 5 gallons of water

Mix well; wait 30 minutes. Water should have a slight bleach odor. If
not, repeat and wait 15 more minutes.





Cindy,  two food links   to products I have used, if you may be interested
military style, but actually civilian oriented meals in packs with its own heater.
very good, surprisingly tasty, coffee good, et cetera.  a little pricey but they keep  -  said to keep 5 years
sealed and dried meals in packets and in their own bucket
the food is great, and tasty, and easy to make in boiling hot water in ten minutes
to me they don't have enough nutrition, for full supply, and I would have some canned vegetables to add to their mixes.
this food is better than I can make-  (not saying much) - said to keep 25 years
SOME people just get extra canned goods, and eat some out of their stocks, and rotate them.
Not actually intended as an action of fear, storing some extra food makes you rest a little.
DO consider extra toilette paper and as they say feminine needs.



Camping , or so called, Field, Water Filter


Part of an article from my site, complete version is under the link
Why you need water filtration.  the
Katadyn filter linked is about the best field water filter.  
I have household ones, can not afford this one- 
point is thirteen thousand gallon capacity is more than anyone else has, and for the money you are getting much more capability than cheaper ones. 
link from my site about getting water in the field
When you see a clear mountain stream flowing with water from melted glacial snow, are you tempted to take a big drink of that cold water?

You may want to think twice about drinking water without filtering or purifying it when you learn what could be in your water that you can't
even see. 
"Giardia is a disease caused by a one-celled parasite with the scientific name Giardia lamblia. The disease is characterized by intestinal symptoms that usually last one week or more and may be accompanied by one or more of the following: diarrhea, abdominal cramps, bloating, flatulence, fatigue, weight loss, and sometimes vomiting and fever," (Dennis D. Juranek, Chief, Epidemiology Activity Parasitic Diseases, Centers for Disease Control). There are drugs available to treat these symptoms, but prevention and precaution by filtering and purifying your water is by far the best medicine.

Another nasty parasite found in water is called Cryptosporidia. "Cryptosporidium are a genus of protozoan parasites that cause intestinal as well as pancreatic, bile duct, hepatic, and respiratory illnesses in mammals. Protozoa are single-celled organisms which are
closer to bacteria than to viruses. Cryptosporidium parvum is believed to be the only member of the Cryptosporidium genus that causes disease in humans. It has an unusual life-cycle, as it is able to reproduce both sexually and asexually. It is protected by a shell which renders
it immune to most disinfectants. It can only reproduce inside a live host and is exceptionally resistant to chlorine, even at  concentrations found in bleach." (Current and Owen, 1989; Current and Garcia 1991; McAnulty et al., 1994).

(they say all streams and water bodies in this country have the above pests.)

Cheaper than dirt  - link to the field water filter
$319.97 appears to be the best out there


Katadyn Pocket Water Microfilter Endurance 10" Tall 20 ounces

Specifications and features:
Katadyn Endurance series Pocket water filter
13,000 gallon capacity
50,000 liter capacity
~ 1 quart per minute output
~ 1 liter per minute output
0.2 micron ceramic depth filter
Ceramic filter can be cleaned
Measuring gauge indicates when to change filter element
Round pump handle
Outlet hose can be attached to a water container
Aluminum, stainless steel, silicone, and ceramic construction materials
The tried and tested ceramic depth filter removes bacteria, protozoa and other disease-causing agents.
Reduces chemicals and radioactive particles
Silver impregnated ceramic filter element
For one to four people
For long term extreme use and trekking
10" x 2.4"
Includes prefilter, bottle clip, and carry bag
Weighs 20 ounces

Katadyn's Pocket water filter is suggested for expeditions, camps, and professional use. It is designed for long lasting continuous use, even under extreme conditions. The silver impregnated ceramic element is effective against bacteria and protozoa. The Katadyn Pocket filter is suitable for tough conditions and extreme adventures.

Katadyn water filters are specifically designed to make safe drinking water from almost any water source. Ideal for travel, camping or disaster kits, we have the filtration system to meet your needs. Highest quality Swiss manufacturing ensures the level of protection you require from a Pocket Microfilter. Most rugged, longest lasting microfilter is made of heavy duty materials and is ideal for long lasting continuous use under extreme circumstances. The silver and ceramic filter element is effective against bacteria and protozoa and can produce 1 quart of water per minute. Total capacity is up to 13,000 gallons, depending on water quality. Includes hoses, prefilter, bottle clip, hydration connector, measuring gauge, cleaning pad and carry bag. Very portable at only 10" tall and 20 ounces.



This is an at- home emergency water filter system, not using power
Doulton water filters
I have the separate candles, now a lot more expensive, with tubes, all I need is a container to put the water in, and another to catch it, and you siphon from one to the other
means you do not need  power
is the link from my site
individual candles are ten dollars or so more than they were in 1999.  several links from the above link.  You need  a roll of Teflon tape such as plumbers use to help seal the threads  correction still about what I paid.  the links work from this page, surprising, in light of how long ago I posted it
Call me with any questions.   Need to work up a photo of what I have
Teflon tape links, apparently a misnomer
you can find thread sealing tape or what is commonly called Teflon tape in any hardware store.
as an addition, I added some extra tubing in my kit, in case needed.  just slides over the white tube, it being low-pressure
Good, cheaper system, but you can not carry it to the field
Have fun writing about all this, again.


How long do you store for?   First thing is ask the LORD to lead you.
couple of facts
The Army considers the first thirty days the "initial cauterization"  or minimal time period you should expect to have to stay inside after a nuclear attack.
They also state that if you get even temporary cover for the first week you will avoid as much radiation exposure as you will get the rest of your  life in that area.
My storage at present.
I personally could go a couple of months, if I stop getting into my stores.  The figure one gallon of water per person for day and I have forty gallons of clean water
and about the same amount of just any water for flushing the toilette.  I have some at home water filters at present and the Yadkin River is just below me.
I have sufficient firepower and ammo to go about three years or so of hunting.  Maybe  a lot longer depending.
Point is any amount of preparation gives you a little edge.  Have propped one of those blue barrels of water up a couple of times during the years for drinking, and have
used my so called gray water to flush the toilette during winter power outages.
Indelicate discussion.
have eaten the old fashioned MRE food packs like I linked to and they are tough on your system.  I mean at the bathroom end.
The packets called MREs I linked actually gave me good bowel movements- and that is having already eaten the cookies and nuts, and dried fruits separately.  (If you get into your MRE meals, you wind up raiding them all)  link I gave you- food was very good and did not bind you up.  ( may be indelicate but an important point) 
I have seen it written that a person should not eat the MREs on a continual basis for more than 21 days.
Maybe the best way
maybe the best way is to do a little at a time.  I think I spent about five hundred dollars when I had it to spare building up a little stored food.  Have not even mentioned that many people start by just buying extra canned good like they usually eat.  Every little bit could help.  I would shoot for a week, then a month, or then a couple of months.  Some say you need to store six months to a year of food.  Have not talked about power or light, but should say still have a milk crate of candles from 1999 I bought at a quarter each.
Just a thought for now, and the best is just ask the LORD to show you what you need to do, and when, and how.  He will.


Some stuff


Fire starter I like.  think there are about four of them around here.
found mine a little hard to open, so filed a notch to pry with a knife.
Strike force fire starters

Manufacturer: Ultimate Survival Technologies 1WG0411-O
Item: CAMP-225
UPC: 610390124110

Specifications and features:
Strike Force fire starter
Non toxic and odorless tinder
Registered with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, no. 5,279,628
5" long
Flint material
0.5" diameter flint bar
Embedded in an ABS case
Weighs 3.7 ounces
Made in the USA

The Strike Force fire starter will easily ignite any dry tinder material. It is safe to use for your backpacking stoves or barbecues. The Strike Force fire starter is perfect for a survival kit, camping gear, or for hiking. The patented Strike Force is an exceptional all-weather flint based fire starting system. The system offers you an all-in-one compact, durable package, with a special alloy flint bar, hardened steel striker, and revolutionary Wet Fire tinder.

Ultimate Survival Strike Force combines a special alloy flint bar, hardened steel striker, and revolutionary Wet Fire™ tinder in one


One fire starter to skip

these are a problem.  the fire burns very quickly and any slight wind causes the little flakes of magnesium to fly away.  I would avoid these









Magnesium Fire Starter Brand New Made in U.S.A.






Pocket saws


was going to talk about my pocket chain saw setup and found it on the web.  guess I forgot I posted it.  looking in my own files I find it had been posted five years ago. 


I have not extensively used such a saw, but found some linked on Amazon, with bad reviews  is posted on above page also- a review of what is out there









Compass like mine.  worth the money.  best made, military grade












One thing is most people talk about having one

bug-out bag, to carry needed stuff in case.  Modern version of old article saying backpack survival will not work